K.C.G. Gilder in R.A,F uniform
Graham Sutcliffe
War Grave K.C.G. Gilder
Graham Sutcliffe
War Grave K.C.G. Gilder
Graham Sutcliffe
War Grave M.V.Gilder Chadwell St Mary
Graham Sutcliffe
War Grave M.V.Gilder Chadwell St Mary
Graham Sutcliffe

The photograph of Gilder was in my late father`s (Victor Sutcliffe) collection of photographs. Written on the back : Ken Gilder buried in Chadwell Cemetery.

I visited the cemetery today to find a M.V. Gilder – must be the same man.

After the comment: from Mr Cliff Cowin: I now know there is a Kenneth Charles George Gilder leading aircraftman R.A.F No: 639237 and was killed 01/01/1941 and buried in Chadwell-St-Mary Cemetery

I have no idea why he had this photo of a brave R.A.F man. Maybe he was my dad’s mate when he lived in Tilbury?.

Maxell Veron Gilder was a Sergeant in the R.A.F as a flight engineer No: 1456151 and was killed 19th February 1945 and buried in Chadwell-St-Mary Cemetery that is all I know.

Please add any comments: I like to know more about both Gilders and any family, and was they related in anyway.



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  • Hi all, my maiden name was Gilder, my dad was Barry GIDER!!
    He spoke about his older brother that disappeared in the war! Called Kenneth, he said he was a bit naughty in his day and wasn’t sure if he was in prison!! I used to say you can’t just disappear and not contact anyone.
    MY dad would of been 99 this year, he was in the RAF too. My dad was the youngest of 8 children.
    All from Luton, Bedfordshire and owned the hat factories.
    My great-grandfather was George Gilder. My grand dad was Sidney Gilder

    if you have any more information please let me know in the comments.

    By Kim Claudine Franco (05/03/2022)
  • Hi

    Whilst researching my dad in the RAF BC (Nathaniel Stanley Gilder) I came across a log signed by MV Gilder on the internet if his family would like a copy

    By Brian M Gilder (23/06/2020)
  • Hi Elaine.

    Thank you for your information , you have no more details about why my dad had a photo in his collection ? by any chance.

    By Graham Sutcliffe (23/10/2015)
  • Hi Graham, Kenneth and Maxwell Gilder were my great uncles. They lived in Highfield Gardens in Grays. It was great surprise finding this photo on the Internet, thanks for sharing it.


    By Elaine shaw (22/10/2015)
  • Hi Graham,

    They appear to be two different people, maybe brothers. I found the following information on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website http://www.cwgc.org

    GILDER, KENNETH CHARLES GEORGE. Leading  Aircraftman Royal Air Force. Service number 639237. Date of death 01/01/1941. Buried Chadwell Cemetery Sec. 1. Grave 116.

    GILDER, MAXWELL VERNON. Sergeant Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve. Service number 1456151. Date of death 19/02/1945. Buried Chadwell Cemetery Sec. 10. Grave 35.

    By Cliff Cowin (01/04/2015)
  • Hi Cliff , thank you so much I will have to go and find his grave and change photos, if they are brothers what a great loss to the family it must have been.

    By Graham Sutcliffe (01/04/2015)

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